Tangled River 084

posted 1st Jun 2016, 1:00 AM

Tangled River 084
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1st Jun 2016, 1:00 AM

snowshadow

Hi Everyone,

Yay- that’s the end of Book One!

Just thought I’d write a longish post talking about some future plans I’ve got for Tangled River.

First of all, thanks to everyone who has commented and/or subscribed. I love reading all the discussions about what’s going on in the comic, though I’ve mostly refrained from chiming in because I want the book to speak for itself. I really appreciate it when you catch a misspelling or some continuity error. That’s one nice thing about webcomics, you can go back and fix stuff.

On the topic of fixing stuff, I’ve been dying to go back and do some redrawing of the first 25 or so pages. I’ve been learning on the job, and I’d like the comic to look somewhat consistant, even though I’ll be doing my best to get better as an artist.

So what I’m going to do is take a little hiatus, so I can finish up the redraws and get a few pages ahead in Book Two. I’ve managed to keep up the weekly updates so far, and I plan to get back on schedule by the last week of June. I’ll try to have the redrawn pages posted in a week or so. I’ll post updates on my rarely used Twitter page: https://twitter.com/tangledriver

Many of the earlier pages look very cluttered and text-heavy to me, so what I’ve been doing is cutting down the number of panels per page . To make this work I added a new page between pages 4 and 5, so I’ll find a way to insert that without messing up the numbering of all the pages. I might change Page 1 to Page 0 and so on for the first 5 pages, so after Page 6 everything can keep the old numbering.

Another thing I’m going to be doing in the next few weeks is looking into the possibility of publishing a print edition of Tangled River. The final book (years away) will be pretty hefty, so if there’s some interest out there, I’d like to print it in 3 or 4 volumes. There are so many options for getting things in print these days, that if anyone has some helpful suggestions I’d love to hear them. I know Kickstarter is a possibility, though I don’t think I have a big enough fan base to do that right now. Would anyone like to see a Kickstarter for Tangled River-Book One:“The Fate Wheel”?

So, sorry about the delay. I promise that Tanya’s adventures will continue soon.

snowshadow

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8th Jun 2016, 3:19 AM

snowshadow

For all you bilingual readers- my friend Claudia Savasta is working on an Italian translation of Tangled River. We'll be posting the pages here as they are finished:

http://tangledriver-it.webcomic.ws/

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13th Jun 2016, 4:50 AM

snowshadow

I just finished the redrawing and reformatting I wanted to do on pages 1-23. I've replaced some panels, moved and resized some other, which means I needed to add a page between pages 4 and 5, so there is now Page 4A and Page 4B. I'm still not very happy with the way it looks, but I guess a time comes when you have to accept what is and keep moving ahead. Starting work on Book Two soon.

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22nd Jun 2016, 12:18 PM

snowshadow

It feels weird not having a new page to upload on Wednesday. I haven't been idle though- I've been uploading Claudia's translation onto an Italian webcomic site:
http://www.webcomics.it/tangledriver/
We hope to add 2 or 3 pages a week.

And I've started work on Book Two!

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1st Jun 2016, 1:08 AM

HiFranc

Thank you for creating this.

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1st Jun 2016, 2:20 AM

plymayer

Enjoying the ride so far.

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1st Jun 2016, 12:26 PM

wright1

Your break is well-deserved. Quality work takes time, and it's clear this story is a labor of love.

Enjoy yourself and do what you need to do.

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2nd Jun 2016, 4:00 AM

snowshadow

Thanks for the support, everyone.

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2nd Jun 2016, 4:41 PM

Meran

I agree, it's a very nice comic and I can see you're working hard on it... But HIATUS? NO!....

Lol
I'll take what I can get, of course. Please think about my suggestion though, if a guest artist, mainly for the reasons I gave. It'll expose your comic to other dedicated readers. You'll pick up more of your own by having a guest artist. I can't count, or even guess at, the number of new webcomics I read religiously from following guest artists around.

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3rd Jun 2016, 8:04 AM

snowshadow

Hi Meran,

A good suggestion, but since I'm kind of a control freak, using guest artists isn't an option for me, even though it might boost readership. However if there's anyone who'd like to do some fan art of my characters, I'll figure out a way to put a gallery up on the website.

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22nd Jun 2016, 3:55 AM

Meran

Fan art is a good idea too. I know some artists; maybe they'll want to contribute.

I'm not good at people, but I might make that cute little "pet". He looks rather spidery at times. Is that a correct assumption?

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22nd Jun 2016, 12:14 PM

snowshadow

Hi Meran,

I hope Blef doesn't look too spidery- maybe spider monkey? He seems more the lemur type to me. I'd love to see your drawing of him. Then I'd have to figure out how to add a Fan Art page to the website.

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3rd Jun 2016, 2:07 AM

Bobbiblackcat

It'll be cool to reread the beginning.

If there is a kickstarter I hope a softcover version is available (if possible).

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3rd Jun 2016, 7:59 AM

snowshadow

As soon as I finish the redraws of the earlier TR pages, I'll be looking into printing options for a possible Kickstarter for Book One. I'm pretty sure I'd stick to softcover to keep the cover price low. Anyone out there have any suggestions for printers?

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8th Jun 2016, 5:30 AM

Bobbiblackcat

Yay. Itd be cool to own this in print.

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22nd Jun 2016, 4:00 AM

Meran

I'd largely suggest you contact other artists on Kickstarter, see which companies they used.., and ask if they'd use them again. That would be the best way, I think. (We haven't had a bad response to ~any of the questions we've asked. Everyone has been very sharing. Only one Kickstarter that we almost got involved in went badly. But the team, minus the guy who absconded with the money) made good on all their promises. I'm sure it was very difficult for them... But, on the whole, I've bought several webcomics thru Kickstarter, and two thru Indiegogo (you get all the money from there, unlike Kickstarter).

I hope this helps! Would love to see your books a reality.

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22nd Jun 2016, 12:12 PM

snowshadow

Hi Meran,

I'm approaching the idea of publishing Book One very cautiously. Though I'm happy to have the number of readers I do, I don't think there are a whole lot of them. Also, my social network if rather small. Before I attempt a Kickstarter campaign I've decided to try the option of finding a small publisher who'd be willing to take a chance on a fairly obscure comic. So that's what I've been doing this week, researching possibilities and putting together whatever I need to make a pitch. The worst thing in the world for me is writing a synopsis- I hate it so much. You need to skip all the subtle plot development and character building and just boil everything down to plot.

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11th Jun 2016, 9:00 PM

Delta-v

I finished the Archive-dive just in time for a hiatus--my timing is impeccable. :)

At any rate, I'm enjoying the comic very much, and want to congratulate you on the natural way in which your characters act and react. You have a good sense of human behavior. :)

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12th Jun 2016, 3:44 AM

snowshadow

Hi Delta-V. I'm glad you're enjoying the comic, and I'm hoping I can keep the hiatus short. Today I'll be finishing up the last of the redrawing of pages 1-12, and then I can start in on doing some design work for Book Two.

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13th Jun 2016, 11:19 PM

Delta-v

Take all the time you need to do what you need to do. I'm used to hiati, and I won't lose my place. ^^

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14th Jun 2016, 9:25 PM

Bathymetheus

I agree with DELTA-V, and I would like to say that in addition to being willing to wait, I hope that you will pace yourself to that level at which you enjoy the creative process. While we are all keen to see what you have in mind for the future of this world and its characters, I hope you will not push yourself to the point that drawing becomes a chore rather than a pleasure.

P.S. Does "Tangled River" refer to the multiple interactions of the people (including the indigenes, of course)? I am thinking of the way a river spreads out into a multiplicity of small streams as it forms a delta at the end of its course. These streams tend to cross and recross in a chaotic way. I like this as a metaphor, but of course you may have something completely different in mind.

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29th May 2017, 12:18 AM

Annie

I love what I've read so far! I'm so curious about what they will find out there.

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